open with box of rain /little red roaster jerry an bobby tradeing licks on slide i was looking at phil shoes frying wacthing music for me far from me /brent left his soul shine this week end was the last time run for me at the frost amp best of times /in the early 80s when they broke out she belong to me

Rooster

Sounds like a fun show

It is probably better to hear stuff they didn't do back in the good old days during the 1st set.
Set kicks up a notch during Cumberland Blues.
This all probably doesn't work on paper
but is actually helping me feel much better!

Folks who write hyper-critical reviews are kinda like those who talk beneath microphones during quiet parts of ballads.(Never see those people, anyway)

Pretty sweet well played 2nd set,
Believe it's the Chula Vista cruiser during Other 1?
I miss tour it wasn't all roses but gone are the days...

i have the tapes from this show that my friend got from healy directly,they are first gen digital sbds on tdx sa-x so maybe "digital" means "dat"? i can't remember when they came out exactly, but i do remember my friend having a dat around 88 or 89,had to be before 90 because i moved away from the area and didn't see him again for years after,anyway these are some of my fav tapes and both shows were just a blast!

Don't rate a show something because you don't like someone's review. God!

i love the 80's and the west coast shows are my fav

I understand you trying to make yourself come across as credible, but Midi usage began in 87' when Brent purchased a Kurzweil Midiboard v2.0, which they quit making in 90', ironically after his death, and due to new ownership, and hired the band hired Bob Bralove to be their MIDI tech/whiz.....Soooooo, WHOS THE KNOW IT ALL NOW! And, I got to agree with the guy a few rows down talking about the stupidity of some of the people on here, and youtube. If people would do less talking, and just listen to the damn music, there would be no stupid opinions, theories of various drug habits of members of the band. I think thats what the early 80s cat is getting at. People weren't all dramatic with the band, their habits, and their lives. And the boys got big thanks to MTV, not because "their music improved between 86-95......I am sure I am not alone when I say that they in fact declined slowly but surely got worst from Jerry's health issues. I hope that was your reason. And this Rooster is fuckin' heavy. Dig it.

Quite frankly I never saw a Grateful Dead show. I'm 24. I would have loved to but I just wasn't born when that was going on.

What I do know is that some of the best Mydland period GD stuff was going on in 89-90. The evidence is all out there. The countless revival's in 89' starting with Alpine Valley, continuing at Shoreline and Climaxing at Hampton. The entire performance year of 1990 shines in so many ways. New ways of exploring soundscapes (midi) and variations on the setlist. 88' as a performance year was a little more hit or miss, but it was the start of something great.

What I also have an endless supply of SBDS to listen to. I have no context with memories, touring, or the scene, just the music to listen to.

Tea-bag, maybe your heyday of Dead tour was pre 1985, but to declare that unarguably that early 80s was a more authentic time to be part of tour is pretty narrow of you. I know that the Dead played more small theatre shows in the early 80s, but don't negate the awesomeness of the late 80s because things got too huge. They got big for a reason.

Also, probably not smart to put down people that are remastering lots of uncirculating copies of GD SBD's. Why attack someone for challenging the lineage of a recording?

I understand your point about people trying to sound like know-it-alls, but in the process you kind of did as well.

Show respect for those who contribute to the archive. Peace

Wow what rock were you living under? Read Golden Road issue 2 from Spring '84, great article by Jeff Silberman on digital, of course it was all still VHS and PCM1 processors at that early stage. My brother was doing DAT masters in '87, I was getting DATS in trades in '87, DAT decks were cropping up on tour at that time. So we're not really sure what you are talking about here.

How do you know what Healy had and when? I guess he called you on the phone and told you? Us early-'80's Heads get a good laugh from these folks who think they actually know what is going on. Like the review I read yesterday from another Touch Head, about how "Jerry was clearly using" during Drums. How do you know, are you a user too? Maybe he was tired form traveling on tour at 47 years old, who knows and who really cares. A great example of how lame the scene got post-'86. We never pretended to know these things in '84, there was so much less nonsense in '84.

Good show for '88. Frost '82, '83 and '85 are what you want folks. Two stars for ignorance by reviewers. 3 for performance which is as high as I seem to go for '88.

Happy 71st Phil.

Good show. Good sound.

Surprised no one has noticed yet that this is not from a Dat Master. Healy did not have a Dat, nor did anyone else for that matter, until 1989-90 when the first grey market ones came out of Japan. This is from a PCM digital sbd master. It does amaze me sometimes that this community can act so know it all and smart, yet not really know much.

Sound is good and show is pretty good.

The spatial and phasing effects were definitely there at the show...I was there and it is a show that stands out in my mind. Frost was such a great place to see GD. We ate a couple caps before we went in and had a pretty zoomin' time. The show was broadcast FM and we got copies when we got home. I remarked at the time that the tapes captured the spatial and phase shifting effects really well. At the show we all thought that maybe it was just our "state" so to speak. Anyway, I liked the versions of Cumberland Blues, WPCTS and Eyes. And the drums/space was more than pretty weird and cool; it woke us up, that's for sure (LOL)!! A very satisfying show as listened to hear and as remembered.

That has to be the most asinine review I have ever read...

I've been fascinated with the sound manipulations that they'd have going on at their live shows ... where it seems the phase of various instruments is being played with. You can hear what appears to be the same sort of thing going on.

From listening to archive shows and what i recall .. the archive shows seemed without these spatial effects, that the spatial/phasing effects was meants strictly for the live audience (you all remember the large speaker towers and how they'd whip the signals all around the stadium that way). Seems that there is a bit of that going on hear. i don't think it's an artifact of old tape or that someone applied phasing to the source before it arrived hear at archive.

any thoughts?

anyways ..

Will tonight feature more debuting songs?

1st Set: I'm hearing 'LTGTR' 'Jack,' 'Bird' chords in the 160 second tune-up... Instead we're going search for that elusive easy-listening "Box of Rain." sweet but kinda weak; time to find Phil another tune. "Touch" is standard though a cheshire smile from Jerry would charm more than this version does. "Far From Me" can be just that; the polite mandatory applause is appropriate. "Cumberland" is undemanding and unremarkable listening. "Memphis Blues" at least has some passion behind the pristine playing. "Push" is typical, not strange for a song that always sounds the same. "Cassidy" is introverted and deliberate.

2nd Set: Merciful god, someone tell the band that this isn't coundcheck "Louie," although this version's one of the best ones considering Jerry and Brent's countering off the rhythm. It quietly segues into "Truckin" It's your typical chill adequately performed less than seven minute version. Whoa, what was that cataclysmic shudder at 2:12 during a lazy-dazy "Crazy?" "Samson" sounds busy-good tonight after a somewhat awkward opening. Without pause, they start up an average "Eyes." "Drums" leads itself nicely to an intense, shape-shifting "Space." "TOO" convinces me that its creators are demented...not blitzkrieg, but solid. "Wharf" makes me feel the despair but the musicians aren't up to taking it to the next transcendent level. "Throwing" forces me to stand and angrily sing-along with Bobby. "Lovelite" appears to be a spur of the moment call. It's snappy and quite good fun for its 5 minute length.

Tonight's encore is an all guns-blazing excellent "Knockin"

3 stars

Box of rain>Hell in a bucket>Touch of grey.....
Awesome show

pure psychadelic insanity on "Other One" and throughout the second set. This show is an 88 gem!!